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Location:

Alpine,NY,USA

Member Since:

Jul 15, 2007

Gender:

Female

Goal Type:

Olympic Trials Qualifier

Running Accomplishments:

Began running after 26 years of sedentary lifestyle and four children. Took my first 5 hour 10 minute marathon down to sub 3hr in 2 years.

Short-Term Running Goals:

My new goal is to get back to where I was a few years ago; running mainly for enjoyment (and not just to reach a specific time standard) and to reach the highest level of fitness/speed that I feel is possible for me while maintaining a balanced lifestyle.

Long-Term Running Goals:

Conquer the last 10k of The Marathon.

Personal:

Stay at home mom to four kids, married to Matthew, live on a 130 acre farm in Upstate NY.

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Thu, May 22, 2008

Easy Miles	Marathon Pace Miles	Threshold Miles	VO2 Max Miles	Crosstraining miles	Total Miles
4.00	1.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	5.00

broke 36hr fast. Learned that i can run on no fuel. This 5 mi run felt like the last part of a marathon, physically and mentally. very uncomfortable, but not impossible. Decided to see how it felt picking up the pace for the final mile (I don't wear a watch but Matt does) I suspected it was around 7min pace (if i was lucky) turned out to be about 6:15. go figure. Not sure if this will really cause my body to store more glyc, but I have learned that I can survive (and continue to run at a decent clip) on low fuel. (94.8lbs) Time to load.

Night Sleep Time: 0.00	Nap Time: 0.00	Total Sleep Time: 0.00

Comments

From MichelleL on Thu, May 22, 2008 at 14:21:53

So the purpose was to deplete glycogen and then reload? You'll have to let us know how it affects the marathon. Personally, I am not sure if there is anything that would induce me to fast for 36 hours. I think I would be in my bed for the last 24 hours of it.

From Kaite on Thu, May 22, 2008 at 17:29:30

Yeah, Michelle. It helped that 16hrs of it was while I was sleeping. I honestly wasn't sure if I would be able to do this (which is why I've put off trying it for about 5 years) It really wasn't as bad as I expected. I think a 36hr total fast as opposed to 3 days of allowing protein actually makes it easier (a 5k vs. a marathon) and I didn't feel ketotic as I have done during (extremely rare) times of limiting carbs. What I really fear is that I'll run well on Sunday and realize that I might have to do this again. I'm not really an advocate of loading but then, I haven't had much success feeling good at the end of a marathon either. I've read an increase of 30% of carbs is what you should shoot for. It's all a big guess to me, really.

From Jon on Thu, May 22, 2008 at 18:45:45

Are you doing another marathon on Sunday? Which one?

From Katie on Fri, May 23, 2008 at 07:21:37

Yes. Buffalo, NY. It was sort of a last minute decision. The weather forecast is near perfect and it's a flat course. It will be the third in 10 wks. The last two didn't work out. I ended up pretty much walking the last 10k of both and recovered just as though I had done a long run. In this one, the goal is only to run a solid final 10k. I recover so quickly, I just can't think of a reason not to give it a go.

From Jon on Fri, May 23, 2008 at 18:51:19

Katie- do you think some of your struggles at the end of marathons come from running them so often? I am a fan of Pete Pfizinger's "Advanced Marathoning", and he does not recommend racing a marathon more than 2-3 times a year and does not recommend training runs longer than 22 miles because they are so hard to recover from. I wonder if you feel like you recover quickly but actually don't get all the way back to 100% (which, if you didn't, would reveal itself at the end of a marathon).

That being said, if your main goal for this marathon is to practice only the last 10k, I would highly, highly recommend doing it how I did the Ogden marathon last Saturday- check out my blog. I went through the 1/2 marathon mark 5 full minutes slower than I could have and ran 20-30 seconds slower per mile than my potential all the way until mile 19. I then picked up the pace 30 seconds per mile until almost the end. The result? I passed tons of people in the last 7 miles and felt great. And I ran a 3.5 minute negative split! I would highly recommend trying this method if you want to work on your speed at the end of a race. The whole key is to go out VERY slow- it should feel rather easy for at least the first 13 miles. Try it and good luck!

From josse on Fri, May 23, 2008 at 21:06:48

I think Jon has a very, very good idea.

I don't think you should mess with your diet right before the marathon. I have tried the depletion and then carbo loading and the only results I got was coming down with a cold and getting constipated. But I hope for your sake it works.

From Jon on Sun, May 25, 2008 at 19:08:46

How did the marathon go? The last 10k? I saw you ran a 2:58, which I believe is your best time this year.

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